Thursday, April 30, 2009


So sad. In a Mormon Times column published last August, Orson Scott Card called for the overthrow of the government over same-sex marriage. He said:
If America becomes a place where our children are taken from us by law and forced to attend schools where they are taught that cohabitation is as good as marriage, that motherhood doesn't require a husband or father, and that homosexuality is as valid a choice as heterosexuality for their future lives, then why in the world should married people continue to accept the authority of such a government? What these dictator-judges do not seem to understand is that their authority extends only as far as people choose to obey them. How long before married people answer the dictators thus: Regardless of law, marriage has only one definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I will act to destroy that government and bring it down, so it can be replaced with a government that will respect and support marriage, and help me raise my children in a society where they will expect to marry in their turn.


  1. This makes me sad, too. And a little freaked out!

  2. OSC is a deeply screwed up person with regards to sex. Have you read Songmaster, Monkey Sonatas or Hart's Hope (or more terrifyingly, the short story I think was entitled "Blue Angels")?

    Here is a man who had not one, but two children with Down Syndrome after his wife was in her forties (one is sad, two is willfully hurting a child). He is a lunatic extremist. (Also, I'm pretty sure all of his children are adults or very close, so that's a specious argument.)

    Although there are a BUNCH of reasons Mormon's are anti gay marriage (not just standard homo-phobia which I hate to say, is truly there) OSC's arguments are unbelievably stupid.

    But every liberal in the world threatened to leave the country or secede more than once after Bush was elected and re-elected. It's just a phase they'll get over it too.

  3. I just want to say, liberal though I am, which is very, I never threatened to leave the country or secede when Bush was elected. Because that was stupid.

    Also, I guess I don't have a problem with him having two down syndrome afflicted children? I think that's sort of an irrelevant and wrong-headed line of attack. If your point is, "Why did they try to have babies after his wife was forty?," I can see where you're coming from but don't really care because it's none of my business. If your point is, "Why didn't they abort the little bastards?," I have to say: Huh? It's this sort of judgmental attitude that gives way to conservatives calling us liberals "elitist scum."

    No, the issue here is that Orson Scott Card is a motherfucking insane person, and worse yet, a bigot to the max. Please, oh, please, Mr. Card: act out and attempt to destroy my country, I dare you. Your rash, ridiculous, and vitriolic point-of-view is one of a very small minority, and our government will just bounce your ass to a comfy jail cell where you can write all the goddamned little boy sci-fi books you want.

    The best part is, with every high school graduation, this point of view becomes smaller and smaller. Someday soon, it'll be so insignificant that we'll all laugh about it. "Remember all those gay-hating assholes? That sure was funny."

  4. And now that I think about it, from having read Ender's Game, it's very homoerotic. The little boys showered together, and "fought" naked together. Orson might be repressing his own homosexual urges by being so violently opposed to gays and gay marriage. Just a thought.